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I have accumulated a serial number listing of HK91s over the last few years from regularly monitoring various online sales sites (Gunbroker, etc.), and thought I would share for any who are interested. Since July 2017, 25 have sold on Gunbroker. Sales prices started a little over $2000 last year for several with typical handling marks...add $150 or so for collapsible stock and another $150 or so for bipod. Prices are up $300-400 the first couple months of this year. The absolute highest selling price was $3625 (November 2017) for a new-in-the-box (styrofoam only...no cardboard) factory desert camo version.
Brian:The following was posted a while back either on this or another newsgroup.HK date codes: A=0 F=5 B=1 G=6 C=2 H=7 D=3 I=8 E=4 K=9J is reserved for proof house use and on HK parts not required to be prooftested such as magazine housings.EXAMPLE: IG = 1986Hope this helps.Steve
##Well, you could call HK, but it is a little easier than that. On thereceiver, near the seial #, are two letters, such as "IB" etc., thisis the date code 1982 as I understand it. CFI (their number can befound at www.cfiarms.com) might be a little quicker than HK. If thisis leading up to putting new parts on a SR-9 or similar, the modelitself shows the configuration, so check on your legal situationbefore you change anything. If this is regarding putting parts on atrue 91, such as an A3 collapsable stock, ALL true 91's are pre-ban.Hope this helps!
# #Does anyone know how to date HK rifles by serial #?## Well, you could call HK, but it is a little easier than that. On the# receiver, near the seial #, are two letters, such as "IB" etc., this# is the date code 1982 as I understand it. CFI (their number can be# found at www.cfiarms.com) might be a little quicker than HK. If this# is leading up to putting new parts on a SR-9 or similar, the model# itself shows the configuration, so check on your legal situation# before you change anything. If this is regarding putting parts on a# true 91, such as an A3 collapsable stock, ALL true 91's are pre-ban.Thanks to all who replied, it's an 81 HK91 and no it has nothing to dowith any changes, just wanted to know the mfg. date for sure plus it willhelp if I find another I might want to buy ;)
###Steven Schneider wrote:###EXAMPLE: IG = 1986###That's odd, I think the first two letters on my HK91A2 are "AO". It's#definitely a Heckler & Koch 91, so what gives?##-Dave#I believe you're looking at the serial number. Look by the proofmarks and you'll see 2 letters off by themselves. That is the datecode mark.Hope this helps
1989? That was when Bush's import ban stopped further import, no? I'dsuspect the last rifles to make it in would have been somewhat olderthough, allowing for some time in the pipeline as it were.: And are the mags dated also? There's the letters IC on the two steel
The commercial H&K magazines are dated similarly to the rifles; I think"J" can be used for the date code on the magazines, or some such?Military magazines are usually stamped with the month and year ofproduction, and the symbol for the maker (HK, Rhinemetall, etc).The "87 in a circle" sounds like a molding date. Many plastic moldingcompanies use a changeable peg in their molds to indicate the date (orother information) that an item was cast. Take a look at a milkcrate, thehidden surface of a plastic auto part or so forth...-- Arne Gustav CarlstenFlagstaff, ArizonaChomh da/na le muc...
Naturally, there are combos of the first and second number that (as much as we might want one) would produce an HK firearm model number that doesn't (or won't ever) exist. For example: the HK59, the BIG brother of the MP5.... :-)
There have been model number changes over the years, most notably the models 91 and 93. They were originally imported as the 41 and 43, respectively, and if you look at the coding, you'll see they are identified as "Paramilitary" rifles -- which to this day I maintain that they are. They are not "Assault Rifles" (which is a media term).
Now that we have that squared away, I have to note that it appears that HK has changed their date coding for post-ban LE/military magazines, and there hasn't been any definitive documentation to indicate what this is.
The Heckler & Koch G3 (Gewehr 3) is a 7.62×51mm NATO, select-fire battle rifle developed in the 1950s by the German armament manufacturer Heckler & Koch (H&K) in collaboration with the Spanish state-owned design and development agency CETME (Centro de Estudios Técnicos de Materiales Especiales).[2] The modular designed G3 has over the years been exported to over 70 countries and manufactured under licence in at least 15 countries, bringing the total number built to around 7,800,000.[3]
The origin of the G3 can be traced back to the final years of World War II when Mauser engineers at the Light Weapon Development Group (Abteilung 37) at Oberndorf am Neckar designed the Maschinenkarabiner Gerät 06 (MKb Gerät 06, "machine carbine device 06") prototype assault rifle chambered for the intermediate 7.92×33mm Kurz cartridge, first with the Gerät 06 model using a roller-locked short recoil mechanism originally adapted from the MG 42 machine gun but with a fixed barrel and conventional gas-actuated piston rod.[4] With careful attention to the mechanical ratios, the gas system could be omitted.[5] The resultant weapon, Gerät 06H (the "H" suffix is an abbreviation for halbverriegelt - "half-locked") was assigned the designation StG 45(M) (Sturmgewehr 45(M) , assault rifle 45) but was not produced in significant numbers and the war ended before the first production rifles were completed.[6]
In 1956, the Bundesgrenzschutz canceled their planned procurement of the CETME rifles, adopting the Belgian-made FN FAL as the Gewehr 1 (G1) instead. However, the newly formed West German Army (Bundeswehr) now showed interest and soon purchased a number of CETME rifles (7.62×51mm NATO chambering) for further testing. The CETME, known as the Automatisches Gewehr G3 according to German nomenclature, competed successfully against the Swiss SIG SG 510 (G2) and the American AR-10 (G4) to replace the previously favored G1 rifle. In 1956 the Bundeswehr started extended troop trials with 400 CETME rifles. Heckler & Koch made a number of changes to the CETME rifles. In January 1959, the Bundeswehr officially adopted the technically improved CETME proposal.[3] The West German government wanted the G3 rifle to be produced under license in Germany; purchase of the G1 had previously fallen through over FN's refusal to grant such a license. In the case of the G3, the Dutch firm Nederlandse Wapen en Munitiefabriek (NWM) held production and sales rights to the CETME design outside of Spain. To acquire production rights, the West German government offered NWM contracts to supply the German Air Force (Luftwaffe) with 20mm ammunition. Production of the G3 was then assigned to Rheinmetall and Heckler & Koch.[8] The latter company already had ties to CETME, and had worked to further optimize the CETME rifle for use with the full-power 7.62×51mm NATO cartridge (as opposed to the downgraded CETME variant). In 1969, Rheinmetall gave up production rights to the G3 in exchange for Heckler & Koch's promise not to bid on MG 3 machine gun production. Later in 1977, the West German government ceded ownership of G3 production and sales rights exclusively to Heckler & Koch. After obtaining these rights, Heckler & Koch initially had to pay the government 4 Deutsche Marks per rifle, despite having been awarded the contract by the German government.
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